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High school, College, and who knows what else? When you go to a college or university, no one cares one way or the other about anyone's sexual orientation.  What you are experiencing is only the reaction of small minds.  If you JUST BE yourself at college....and not react if anyone should care, everyone will love you.

I realize it isn't easy in HIGH SCHOOL....just lay low...all will be much better for you after leaving there.
**hugs**
Den


[Denny]
2008-08-03 15:10:36

High school, College, and who knows what else? thanks for the comment and if you go to a college that no one knows you then you should be able to go as yourself without worrying about anyone judging you for being gay..maybe your high school friends are weird about it b/c they have known you for years but when you go to college then if you go in as a gay guy thats all any one will ever know about you. some of my best friends are gay, they are no different from anyone else besides the sex of the person they are attracted to..hope this year is good for you..[purplecats] 2008-08-01 14:44:10

High school, College, and who knows what else? I don't know how you feel, but I'll give you my opinion.
I have a friend from high school, that all throughout senior year, actually his entire life, he never let on that he was gay. We all went to college, went our separate ways and what not, and come to find out, when he gets to college, he comes out and everyone knows. I dont know how people around you have 'taken it' but believe me, in college, no one treats you differently. I've been through my first year at a University, and no one thinks twice about it.
College is an adult world. Your forced to be an adult, take things as an adult, and treat each situation in an adult manner. Not to mention jail time is alot worse for discriminiation on a university for adults, so people dont make a big deal out of it.
In fact, there's ten times more support in college for you.
Don't be ashamed of being gay.
Don't live with regrets.
If people dont 'approve' of it, forget them.
Don't waste your time with them.
College is completely different. Just keep that in mind.

I hope i Helped.

[lieturnedtruthx]
2008-08-01 11:48:29

God answers prayers of ppl like me too!

aww thats really good that u wanna change for danny. Gos will guride u, and i kno this next relationship u to will share will be better.

and ty for ur comment

[bellababiee]
2008-08-01 08:45:11

God answers prayers of ppl like me too! You and I should get together and write a movie script about gay love GONE WRONG...hey! Not too bad a title either! LOL!

I'm going through the exact same thing except I haven't been with anyone else....YET.  Good luck to you!


[Denny]
2008-07-31 09:44:38

In and Out the Closet listen do what u feel!!! i feel u gay then u gay f*** every1 and ur rep, i have a big rep  for being popular and a good artist but i do what i want and when i want , u shouldnt ride what pplthink. u love danny then fight for him talk to him it cant get any worse then it is, if u mingle do it where danny will never find out bcuz if he decides to take u back dont give him reasons to not want to take u back. and prey to god, times change , ppl grow, god prbably doesnt believe in the first bible any more all the way, that was hundreds of years ago he might accept gay ppl now,and tattoos and rap music. but take chances is all im saying. Stop dating girls bcuz u playing wih their hearts and u dont need extra stress. im tryna fight for my man back too if u read it in my blog and i advise u do the same!!![thamisses] 2008-07-27 11:59:59

Normal to Abnormal - Again...miss Danny badly Now, I have a DANNY too!  You have to really work AT IT if you want it.  You cannot sit idly by and do nothing.  Gloria Gaynor sang a disco song:  "If You Want IT...GO OUT AND GET IT....YOU'VE GOT TO "DO IT YOURSELF!"....and so it is.
**hugs**
Den

[Denny]
2008-07-07 12:16:37

Liz and daniel on a scale All the preacher man did was put you on a holier than thou guilt trip.  Because you didn't know better, you let it effect you.  Your dad really needs some counceling on what gay life is, and what goes on in ones head.  I know you're only 16 and there's very little, if anything you can personally do about all this hell they've recked on you.  I just read the last three entries.  As I write, I'm still shaking my head at what those people are putting you through.  It is absolutely unbelievable.  You can take solace in the fact that IF Daniel really loves you he will forgive you.  In the meantime, can you imagine what would happen if you got that girl pregnant?  Then, you'd have a life of total torment, thanks to all the idiot's who "know not what they do."  BIG HUGS!!
[Denny]
2008-06-12 23:31:50

break up and Hung over

I can't say a whole lot that I haven't said already about the way your family is treating you.  They keep trying to treat it like it's a disease and that prayer will cure it..grrr.    Don't be angry at yourself.  One thing I think you need to figure out though is if, maybe, you are Bi.  You had sex with Liz.  If you weren't attracted to women, being drunk wouldn't have changed that.  

As for Daniel, once you sort everything out in your own head, you should go talk to him face to face.  From what you've said he is a very good guy and I'm pretty sure he'll be understanding and probably knows most of what you are feeling and has felt that way himself.  Just take it easy and try (operative word there) not to stress too much k?

Dee

[Stormrhage]
2008-06-04 05:04:09

break up and Hung over

sweetie im sorry that all the sh*t is happening at once. Crying or Very sad i wish that i could just give you the biggest hug and tell you everything would be okay, and have you believe me.

*sigh*

this is just a really sh*tty scenario, all around. if you want my email, lemme know. im a really good ear (most of the time).

one day, they will all understand.

**super huge hugs**

[sweetazzhonee]
2008-06-03 12:16:22

break up and Hung over

hey,
You don't have to prove anything to anyone. Having sex with Liz or breaking up with Daniel will not change your sexual orientation. It will certainly not change your feelings for Daniel. I do not know what your relationship with Liz is like. But history will repeat itself if you lead her on (unless she attends your school and already knows you are gay).
People can say many things. You cannot please everyone. Do the right thing that is very important however remember to do what you think is appropriate. If you do not think about yourself who will?
From all that you wrote it is clear how much you love Daniel. And he loves you back just as much. Don't throw away something so beautiful because of a group of homophobic people who cares nothing about your feelings. Of course you have to respect your parents, but there is a limit. When you said you wanted to distance yourself from Daniel I felt sad. You cannot run away from yourself. From all your entries I understood that Daniel is what gives you a solid footing. Don't loose it from a silly reason such as this.
I know how people can degrade homosexuality. But love is universal. No one can pin a name to love.
When people keep reminding you about the past it can be difficult. I can suggest a few things. It helps if you take some time and think things over. Every incident. It maybe hard but face it and get it over with. I am almost certain I know what happened between you and Steve. So I can understand the reasons behind your feelings. None of it is your fault. You cannot help being attracted to him. There is nothing wrong with that. I noticed that you never defend yourself when you talk about Steve. So I am guessing that you may have flirted with him more than you would like to say. Again, it is human. Write it out it might help you.
Finally, talk to you swimming coach. He seems to be a sensible person. You need to talk to someone.
I am glad you are can write things out on my dear diary. I just want you to know that I will be here to support you. It maybe a little difficult to write about certain aspects of your life (Steve). But unless you talk to someone try to put down as much as possible either here or in another diary.
Be Happy and Healthy.
Abydos.

[Abydos]
2008-06-03 11:11:39

break up and Hung over atleast you had fun
doing what you did (even though not the best way) was a way to get rid of whats goin through your head
people are stupid sometimes,
and it will get better
school for me is ending here tomorrow
and im having problems at home
and then work, and everything
it does add up
but some things are seemin to get better

**BB**

[CoronaXtra00]
2008-06-03 10:51:51

break up and Hung over i am amazed that you had to go through this. i am so sorry that you had to go thorugh this. in my opinion, i think that you felt so good with liz because she is a girl an y ou just got pretty much ambushed and pushed around for likeing a  guy. dont let that change the way you feel or the way you look at y our beautiful world. take care of urself an dont lose your self because someone doesnt understand you.Sammi[raspberrycola] 2008-06-03 10:11:38

Daniel, The bible and my ever loving DAD

i grew up southern baptist and i grew up learning that being gay was a sin also but who doesn't sin? everyone sins..no one is perfect and it's not another human beings place to judge anyone. your relationship with God is your own, not anyone's elses. i hope you and your family can work all this out..good luck and just know that we don't judge here on mdd..(well, most of us anyway)..i'll smoke one for you..lol..

[purplecats]
2008-06-02 15:45:53

Daniel, The bible and my ever loving DAD

Your dad may stop eventually, but right now he just can't get his mind around everything that he's learned.  He's trying to deny it and he's probably thinking he can make you "normal" if he tries hard enough.  Not a whole lot you can do right now to make him understand and that's the tough part.  Time is the only thing that will help.  Don't let them guilt trip you with bible quotes and all that crap.  As for wanting to get high..gotta say it..drugs and alcohol don't help a damn thing..trust me on this one k?  They take away the pain and make you not think for awhile but guess what?  You come down off the high and everything is going to come crashing back on you.  I almost went down that road (alcohol wise) and after a couple of weeks of it, I realized I was going to kill myself if I kept going.  I was one of the lucky ones who didn't keep spiraling down.  I realized I was going to turn into my father and that scared the crap out of me.

Anyway, take care of yourself k? 

Dee

[Stormrhage]
2008-06-02 01:06:25

Holidays, Daniel and a PERFECT week!!!! Definitely skip the reunion :D  I avoid them at all costs myself.  I barely talk to my immediate family (not cause I don't like em', just cause they annoy me most of the time), so I don't want to talk to family I wouldn't see for another 5-10 years. 

As for the Daniel thing, you gotta figure out what you are feeling guilty about.  I don't know everything about the relationship, but from what I read, you are happy with him and he seems to be happy with you, so what's up? 

Can't wait to read your next entry..things are looking up for you!

Dee

[Stormrhage]
2008-05-31 16:29:18

Holidays, Daniel and a PERFECT week!!!!

glad that you had a good week. Mr. Green it was much needed, i'd say..

i'd skip the reunion too.. not only b/cuz of all the relatives and possible questions and crap, but because they are friggin BORING!!! who wants to spend an entire day talking to old people that they hardly know. *shudders* not me!!

Anyways, i hope the guilty feeling doesn't last.  It's never good to have that uneasy feeling in your tummy when you are with someone you have such a good time with.

*hugs*

take care, and im looking forward to your extra long entry. Smile

[sweetazzhonee]
2008-05-31 13:15:40

messed up Hey.
I've been reading your diary entries for quite a while and i really understand how you feel.
You know what? Parents are confusing people. Just hang on 'Ok?
Being Gay is not really funny. Thats what i told my friend when she started laughing about it.
I kinda know how you might feel, I have a Lesbian best-friend, and she tells me all about her problems and fears, and its really quite childish how people make fun of you becouse you have a different sexual nature.
You know...Just keep away from those people you think might talk about you. Just hang out with Danny!
If you want to talk some more, Just message me!
Good luck on the Last day of school.
:]
[RawrOo]
2008-05-27 05:12:52

messed up

I am so glad to hear you talked to your coach.  Even though you may not be getting the support you need from home, you are getting it from other sources.  Your family makes me want to scream though.  And I'm sure you feel the same way.  So closed minded that there is no arguing with them because they think they are righteous in their thoughts.  I would love to smile sweetly and tell them to go take a long walk off a short pier (to put it mildly) just for their ignorance.  :D  Take care o.k?

Dee

[Stormrhage]
2008-05-26 02:34:40

messed up

The way ur being treated for being gay is so unbelievable, it must of been so hard to actually tell the people around u it takes alot of courage. My sister told me she was a lesbian when she was 18 and im completley fine with it but my family have baisicly disowned her.

Because they cudnt accept her for who she is there was alot of arguments it wasnt nice.

They kept telling her she wasnt a lesbian its just a phase, After a wile my sister felt so left out of the family( we lived with our aunts) that she left and moved in with her g.f in birmingham which is quite a bit away from lndn. im 1 of the few that have accepted it from day 1. I ppl think that u can just suddenly change n go bk to being str8 and for what? to make them happy, well what bout u if they were thinkin of u in this situation they wud try to understand how u feel u dnt chose to b gay or str8 u r what u r.

I really hope things work out for u dont let anyone tell u how to live ur life coz its u thats gotta ive it n if they cnt accepts u for who u r then theyre the ones with the problem

Take care luv chloe xx

[bettyboop19]
2008-05-25 14:39:54

One week and its Saturday again I'm glad you finally wrote, I was getting a little worried.  I'm also glad you are realizing that you can be the true you now and not someone everyone else thinks you are.  As far as you and Danny are concerned, just take everything one day at a time and don't push things or don't let him push things.  The last thing you need right now is more pressure.  Another thing is, if your coach knows, maybe he can actually be someone you can talk to about everything.  Someone who is on the outside looking in and isn't so close to the situation that they are blinded by it.  And also someone who might be a little more understanding.  I'm sorry about your mum, that she can't seem to accept you for who you are.  Anyway, stay positive and keep your head up.[Stormrhage] 2008-05-25 01:12:50

Great day saturday hope you had a great time with danny and not to much of a hard time at shcool today..hope your mom comes around soon..[purplecats] 2008-05-19 13:42:14

Great day saturday What you are is not a sin.  This is what all the world religious folk want you to believe.  They are actually sinning against you for believing their IGNORANCE is the truth.

At some point, all of this drama will balance out and you'll become more comfortable in your own skin and life.  Just continue to LOVE....you'll be fine.
**hugs**


[Denny]
2008-05-19 09:13:02

Great day saturday

hi,

I am happy to hear that you had a great time with Danny!

Look, the guilt that you are feeling is not a good thing my friend. It is understandable, considering all that you went through. The events that took place on Monday and Wednesday (I am uncertain of the two days) does not sound very good. I take it that they made you perform, or they performed erotic, sexually stimulating actions. That is inhuman. No human being should be subjected to that. This maybe the root of your guilty feelings. If my own friends did that to me I too would feel as though I cannot face the world. Which is why I am suggesting that you visit a Psychologist. While it is true that it is mostly girls who are subjected to rape etc, it is not a weakness on your part that you were. I have heard of everal Gay people who has gone through similar experiences, and the after effects are much similar to yours as well.

I am rather worried about you circle of friends. (and the boy who turned you on -Steve). I hope you realize how dangerous those children are. The popularity you had in school maybe lost for the moment. Pardon the cliche, but the cool crowed normally doesnt think much about the "uncool" people. I think that is the impression I got reading your first 3 entires. So, I hope now you realize that other children do have feelings too. 

I do not mean any of this in a harsh or offensive way. But this is the only time when things like this can be put across to people like you. the Hype that you surround yourself is like a drug. So please think about it.

And please think about going talking to someone about what you went through. I saw that you are still reluctant to talk about exactly what happened last week. I advice you to let it out. I is not a good thing to keep to yourself. If you cannot talk to a real person, write it here.

If you found this offensive, I am sorry. I am simply trying to help you. I will continue to read your diary. I hope you do the right thing.

One more thing, just because the cool crowed doesnt talk to you, it doesnt mean the people you ignored will not. Try talking to several people who you never even thought of talking to.

[Abydos]
2008-05-18 10:01:36

One long week....I love weekends! I've read your 8 entries.  I have total empathy for you.  I'm sure you feel like you're going thru the fires of hell right now.  Luckily, for me, I never had to go thru what you have.  Because I've been OUT and about much longer than you, I could probably sit here and type all kinds of do's and that's but I WON'T DO THAT.  I don't want to be responsible for telling you something that might not work for you.

There's one thing that is for sure:  You are who you are.  There's nothing no one can do to change that.  You must find a place "within" your own consciousness where all that come your way is ok.  The more you FEAR, the more terrible things will appear in your life. 

To me....the total answer is LOVE....just continue to love and respect everyone, even your worst enemies.   As long as you love and respect, everyone you care for will eventually see that there's nothing wrong with you and your life will balance out.

I wish you peace and love,
Denny


[Denny]
2008-05-17 12:25:38

One long week....I love weekends!

be careful! ppl are ruthless (unfortunately). im sure once everything smooths over, and ppl are used to the "new" way that things are, you'll be fine.

we all have to go through the hardships and the tuff times before we can see the light of happiness.

i hope your weeked is filled with at least some fun and hanging out with danny.

take care!

[sweetazzhonee]
2008-05-17 11:30:20

Did I say Monday was bad????

You need to be careful on what situations you put yourself in.  From part of what you said, they are curious about it, but most of them sound like they hate themselves for it (probably because it did turn them on) and are going to take it out on you because you have the courage to be who you are.  They think it's wrong, and even if they are not gay, being aroused by that scares the crap out of them because it makes them think they are.    Please be careful. 

[Stormrhage]
2008-05-16 03:30:00

Did I say Monday was bad????

i dont know if i am more pissed off at those @$$holes for doing this or if i am more upset.  i feel sooooo bad that you are here telling us what is going on and there is NOTHING that i can do to help you! Crying or Very sad other than offer you my support and my ear if you need it...

i'm just glad (a little) that writing it out helps. just be careful!!! im worried about you.... i hope nothing really bad happens to you!

***HUGS***

[sweetazzhonee]
2008-05-15 22:19:21

Did I say Monday was bad????

i'm not sure what they are doing to you but it makes me so mad!!! what right do these people have to judge you??? NONE!!! what you do in your personal life is your business...noone elses..i hope it gets better soon..try to avoid all those people if at all possible..just my advice anyway..i'm really praying for you man....

[purplecats]
2008-05-15 12:28:41

morning

it's true once you are out of school, it won't matter. but you are there, and will be there for at least a couple weeks (im assuming) before summer break. that will give some time away. im a little scared for you.

PLEASE update when you get home!!!

good luck and congrats on the best looking award! and indeed, best couple. Laughing i chuckled a little bit.

take care!

[sweetazzhonee]
2008-05-14 10:00:37

morning i'm scared for you...there is no telling what happened yesterday when you weren't there..good luck and you are in my prayers..[purplecats] 2008-05-14 09:06:52

morning I know how important social standing is in high school.  The one thing that you need to remember is that once you are out, none of those people will ever matter again.  Most of them you will probably never see again anyway.  You are who you are and nothing or no one can change that.  Don't let closed minded people bring you down.  You need to stay confident in yourself.  I know it's hard  and you may think that nothing will get better, but it does, eventually.   I've added you to my favorites so I can see how everything turns out.  Hold your head up high and be proud of yourself for being who you are.[Stormrhage] 2008-05-14 06:56:12

stabbed in the back. by FriENDs that is a really tough situation..hope it all works out for you..i added you to my faves..[purplecats] 2008-05-13 16:09:12

stabbed in the back. by FriENDs

im sorry, but what a bunch of @$$ holes!!! Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

things like that should NOT happen to nice people. you seem so sweet. ugh. the nerve...

anything i can do to help? lemme know. Smile

[sweetazzhonee]
2008-05-13 15:26:09

stabbed in the back. by FriENDs you dont have to listen to ur friends all the time i no its hard but im goin throught the same thing with my friend but woreMad[megag15] 2008-05-13 14:58:34

mixed +Mixed = ?

lol yeah it probably sounds weird (me wanting to be friends with u) u said thanks... thanks for what?

[saraannierose]
2008-05-07 17:11:44

mixed +Mixed = ?

I don't get the whole gay thing, not that I have anything against gay people.  I would love to have a gay guy friend because then there would be no tension between us.  How old are you and would you be my friend?

[saraannierose]
2008-05-05 13:35:45


 
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